Coronavirus

I like Wader. NIce guy,

and you folks aren't doing the very same???

Come on Jack..........

Where exactly did you see anything like that?

please confirm W & Joe ?

and you folks aren't doing the very same???

Come on Jack..........

Where did you see me doing anything like that?

Can both you and Joe confirm that please.

If they would only learn
All you can do in this world
All you can control is
You and yours

somehow they believe they can see clearly through the muddy mess this entire thing has become from the 1st bullshit cry of give us 15 days to slow the spread and even before that

it’s in now way clear and on no way absolute
So all you can do is evaluate as best you can and make what you think is the best decisions for you and yours
And allow others to do the same

wader and overboard just think they or the ppl they trust are smarter than everyone else
Because they believe and trust them

new flash they are neither just more voices in the mud

unbunch your panties and do you

Roccus made me do it lol
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Yea I bet

I SHOULD know better but the force is strong

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Oh have no fear
I’ll go easy

kinda

and full of crap

If you say so must be true

Where did you see me doing anything like that?

Can both you and Joe confirm that please.

I met my Goal.

What is your Goal Wader?

What is your Goal Joe? I ask since you agreed with his statement.

So, we did everything they asked of us and its not over because they like the controlling narrative.
I’m Done and feel its over, but its cant be over for me because some people want it to still control and rule certain aspects of what was normal life.

Dont be weak, pick up what pieces you still have and try be strong, dependable and available for the living and life.

I don’t believe they can
Fear rules their lives
Wokeness dictates how the must act how themust respond
They are the righteous and virtuous

they are not allowed to think for themselves

jack he said the other folks and i agreed,, i didnt mean you,,,, come on you know mojoe better then that,,, i start no trouble with no one,,,,,,,,[COLOR=rgb(26, 188, 156)] ><)))):>[/COLOR]

Hate to inject facts to this riveting discourse of how personal freedom and political ideology trumps a public health emergency, along with the quality of life in different locations, but I would like to refute a few beliefs that are being touted, that being the impact of vaccination.

Here's the latest from Maine CDC regarding breakthrough infections and hospitalizations. Of course I expect that some folks' "personal experience" and/or hearsay from the brother of a guy who has a brother in law who's a doctor, will vary...

Maine as of Friday had recorded 1,818 “breakthrough” cases – which occur when a fully vaccinated person contracts COVID-19 – as well as 89 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated individuals.

***But unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of new cases – accounting for roughly 95 percent of the more 39,800 new infections and 90 percent of the 917 hospitalizations that have been reported in Maine since the first date when Mainers could be fully vaccinated. Research shows that vaccines provide strong protection against serious illness and death even if a vaccinated person catches COVID-19.

[Maine CDC reports 415 new COVID-19 cases, two more deaths]('https://www.pressherald.com/2021/08/28/maine-cdc-reports-415-covid-19-cases-two-deaths/')***

And I have to add today's Dilbert, quite timely in regards to the debate here...

Hey, here something I think we all can agree on...

[HEADING=2]We Need Clear Goals for Every Covid-19 Policy[/HEADING]
*By Joseph G. Allen and Helen Jenkins Dr. Allen is director of the Healthy Buildings program at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and has studied how Covid-19 spreads in indoor spaces. Dr. Jenkins is an associate professor at Boston University School of Public Health and an infectious disease epidemiologist.

**While the availability of vaccines refocused the U.S. response to the pandemic, many policy questions remain. Should vaccinated people get boosters? Does everyone need to wear a mask? Are unvaccinated children safe in schools?

We think much of the confusion and disagreement among scientists and nonexperts alike comes down to undefined and sometimes conflicting goals in responding to the pandemic. What are we actually trying to achieve in the United States?***

If the goal is getting to zero infections and staying at that level before dropping restrictions, one set of policies apply. If the goal is to make this virus like the seasonal flu, a different set of policies follow.

If you care to read the entire essay, here's the link:

[[SIZE=5]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/us-covid-policy.html[/SIZE]]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/us-covid-policy.html')

Your facts
Dom
Lots of information coming out of Israel that kinda disputes your Maine facts

and that’s the rub
There’s plenty of information from reliable sources on both sides
Pro and con

Oops

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Some mask wearing Vaxer died too

opps

Your facts
Dom
Lots of information coming out of Israel that kinda disputes your Maine facts

and that’s the rub
There’s plenty of information from reliable sources on both sides
Pro and con

Let's see your data please?

In Maine we're 70% vaccinated and the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks, that's a fact.

Twist it however you like, vaccinations help keep you out of the hospital better than not getting vaccinated and the data prove it.

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Let's see your data please?

In Maine we're 70% vaccinated and the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks, that's a fact.

Twist it however you like, vaccinations help keep you out of the hospital better than not getting vaccinated and the data prove it.

And increases problems with blood clots says the maker, and what’s this about?

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And increases problems with blood clots says the maker, and what’s this about?

That's been around a while, now you're woke? Once again, very small on a percentage basis...