Only when they cannot provide DATA or SOURCES that support their position.
Sound familiar??? Oh yeah, I know that Israel data is out there, but you just can be bothered to find it...
Not an excuse
No one needs to prove or provide anything to you
I’ve found it ive read it
You know it’s out there and how to find it
Not my function to provide it for you
[USER=166]@dsedy[/USER] UK study interesting, couldn't get it to pop here...
True enough, the detailed analyses here only focused on Delta in depth, as that was the purpose of the update. If you dive in deeper with all the other variants some interesting data emerge. And we have to remember that these data are from patients seeking medical treatment.
You need to consider deaths from the other variants, which means you need to go through pages 16-21 to total things up. These data showing Alpha variant infections are 39% of the Delta infections, with these 2 variants making 99.75% of the infections. Interestingly enough, Total Alpha variant deaths (1619 deaths out of 150,620 positive cases or 1.07%) are greater than Delta, (1189 deaths out of 363,735) positive cases or 0.31% ). So during this time period, more folks in the UK contracted the Delta variant, but more died from the Alpha variant, at a rate 3.45X the deaths from the Delta variant.
Regrettably, they don't break out the deaths of the non-Delta deaths by variant so we can't exactly get a handle on this in terms of fully vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
Now, I'm modeling here, and I want everyone to understand that, but IF the vaccines are 90% effective on the Alpha variant, which is a bit of a low-ball from all the clinical data published to date, but I'll be conservative. Additionally I will carry that % over to the other variants based on the very low mortality and incidence we have in this data set. From the Delta info on page 22, 73,372 infected patients were fully vaccinated, which means the vaccine must have protected over 733,000 (the 90% who didn't get sick) folks from getting any non-Delta COVID infection in the first place.
All interesting data. Thanks for sharing!
Guys one thing I think we can all agree on is nobody is changing anybodies mind here vax no vax we all have our reasons it is what it is, Can we try and get this thread to some what of a normal state Covid is here and as of now its not going anywhere we all know that The BS back and forth shit isnt doing anyone any good
Not an excuse
No one needs to prove or provide anything to you
I’ve found it ive read it
You know it’s out there and how to find it
Not my function to provide it for you
Put up or shut up, or you're just proving you type, type, type, albeit with an inability to convey your "wisdom" in proper English, with no backup. I have tried looking, but have come up blank and am truly interested in seeing the data. I never have a problem admitting that I’m wrong, unlike others here. Lord knows that COVID has done quite a few u-turns.
I just spent an hour looking at that interesting UK study [USER=166]@dsedy[/USER] posted and made some comments and observations that can be verified. When's the last time you can say the same with support other than you spin, spin, spin...
"Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."
Good post Rick.
As booster shots become more available, the argument now turns to memory cells. Theoretically, memory cells should activate with exposure to the virus thus eliminating the need for a booster. Im somewhat hesitant to get a booster because of this.
Go do your research mr science guy
Not doing it for you
and not shutting up either
You’ll deal with it
Will add this one to the list of other hot air claims you've made, but never fulfilled nor validated...
Remember how you boasted that your Dr. would provide you with a numeric value for your COVID antibody test, something I knew was impossible because I know who and how the assay was designed??
You continued to post that you'd get it for 2 or 3 times, but never did actually share a value. Could that possibly be because the machine that runs the assay never reports out a value besides a diagnosis of NEGATIVE or POSITIVE for COVID-19 Antibodies???
Natural immunity even to the small of mind is obvious. Thats why your parents put all the kids who had chicken pox in the same room.
Works well with the Flu but doesnt work so well when the virus can be fatal........:rolleyes:
Natural immunity even to the small of mind is obvious. Thats why your parents put all the kids who had chicken pox in the same room.
Works well with the Flu but doesnt work so well when the virus can be fatal........:rolleyes:
Chicken Pox is the classic example, especially since the disease is far from fatal and devastating. I wouldn't play that game with the flu though...
I was the first in the neighborhood with Chicken Pox and my mother was fielding calls from all the neighbors asking to have me over for play dates. Probably the busiest I ever was in my childhood...
Will add this one to the list of other hot air claims you've made, but never fulfilled nor validated...
Remember how you boasted that your Dr. would provide you with a numeric value for your COVID antibody test, something I knew was impossible because I know who and how the assay was designed??
You continued to post that you'd get it for 2 or 3 times, but never did actually share a value. Could that possibly be because the machine that runs the assay never reports out a value besides a diagnosis of NEGATIVE or POSITIVE for COVID-19 Antibodies???
Add it to whatever you like
Only u and a hand full of clowns think it matters
mojoe can"t take no more :rolleyes:,,,,on and on and on ?,,,,;),,,,,[COLOR=rgb(26, 188, 156)]><)))):>
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it’s fuckin ridiculous Mojoe, ain’t it… super stupid… cellfish…
Will add this one to the list of other hot air claims you've made, but never fulfilled nor validated...
Remember how you boasted that your Dr. would provide you with a numeric value for your COVID antibody test, something I knew was impossible because I know who and how the assay was designed??
You continued to post that you'd get it for 2 or 3 times, but never did actually share a value. Could that possibly be because the machine that runs the assay never reports out a value besides a diagnosis of NEGATIVE or POSITIVE for COVID-19 Antibodies???
Try getting out amongst ppl one day
Soon
try lowering the def con level
I swear it’s not as scary as you think out here
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-19-not-biological-weapon-163118634.html[/URL]
The other "why" is that you wouldn't design a biological weapon with such a wonderful vaccine target, the Spike Protein...
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