The old Crossbay bridge had wood pilings running alongside the bridge.
Every 20 yards or so. You were able to put your body under the bridge
and with a shovel smash the muscles that were on the pilings. Creating
our own chum slick. Tide heading in right direction and pitching your baits
accordingly. Can't get more genius than that. 😆
They have to stock winter flounder to bring them back
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
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Benny I clearly understand about your 100 raw ton masters licence.
But when it comes to fishing. The last place I'm going is to the Bronx.
You have these people that immigrate to this country from these fishing
villages and they can't fish for there life. If I depended on them I would
starve. The guy that tells me about his boat and he catches blues and bass.
I took me him and his son with one rod taking turns reeling in the fish.
You do not need a boat for inshore species. I'm also not telling you not to buy one.
BONZAI!!!
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Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
I'm with @george in that stocking will not bring them back. The magnitude of stocking necessary is massive, probably beyond the ability of all the combined hatcheries on the coast.
Besides the impossibility of it, I'm dead set against stocking fish in salt water; I don't want to start the stock and catch model that many fresh water fisherman depend on. I personally find it offensive, and an important distinction for us salt water anglers, we know what we catch didn't start life in vitro. Additionally the introduction of stocked fish may be adding fish of a weaker genetic strain which can dilute the native fishes' genetics, and end up actually ending the possibility that native fish no longer exist.
Let the sweet water boys check the stocking tables and grab those hatchery rainbows, browns, brookies, etc. for 3 days post-stocking. Lord knows I miss my flounder, but I'd rather have fond memories than see a salt water fishery dependent on hatchery output. Let's put our efforts into figuring how we can improve conditions in Nature's hatcheries...
Besides the impossibility of it, I'm dead set against stocking fish in salt water; I don't want to start the stock and catch model that many fresh water fisherman depend on. I personally find it offensive, and an important distinction for us salt water anglers, we know what we catch didn't start life in vitro. Additionally the introduction of stocked fish may be adding fish of a weaker genetic strain which can dilute the native fishes' genetics, and end up actually ending the possibility that native fish no longer exist.
Let the sweet water boys check the stocking tables and grab those hatchery rainbows, browns, brookies, etc. for 3 days post-stocking. Lord knows I miss my flounder, but I'd rather have fond memories than see a salt water fishery dependent on hatchery output. Let's put our efforts into figuring how we can improve conditions in Nature's hatcheries...
Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
? its no lie,,,,,,,, if we only knew back then🙁,, we feed everybody ,,, a mojoe haul,, thats how it was back then,, i had a boat in great kills,, these flounder came out of raritan bay staten island,,,,,,,,,,,most of the time with no chum,,,, some times we did chum,,, we picked a spot and dragged the anchor around in a circle to mess the bottom up and then we anchor up and banged them out,, alot of doubles too,,,,,,,,,, ><)))):>
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AdmiralOriginal Crew25,821 postsSince 2018
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I fish 2 rods with a couple of hooks on each rod.
I took my best man fishing. We did the same thing.
I took the Thai guy from work and did the same thing again.
I had to many. I would give them away to the people that just
happened to be there.
I'm telling you it's me, I'm the problem.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
I fish 2 rods with a couple of hooks on each rod.
I took my best man fishing. We did the same thing.
I took the Thai guy from work and did the same thing again.
I had to many. I would give them away to the people that just
happened to be there.
I'm telling you it's me, I'm the problem.
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EAT FISH LIVE LONGER >
AdmiralOriginal Crew25,821 postsSince 2018
chunkster thats insane,,, thats call rape!!! the mojoe flounder haul was nothing,,,,,,,,,, ><))):>
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And by the way, that video is FLUKE!!
Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
The funniest personal flounder haul story of mine involves a nice bucket full of flatties taken on a cold, early spring morning in Mt. Sinai Harbor. I dumped the bucket of fish into the kitchen sink and ran some water over them, while I ran to the head.
Suddenly I heard a major ruckus from the kitchen. I ran in to to see flounders flying out of the sink!! Dumbass me accidently ran hot water over them, and they were not happy about it. as it woke them out of their cold quiescence...
Suddenly I heard a major ruckus from the kitchen. I ran in to to see flounders flying out of the sink!! Dumbass me accidently ran hot water over them, and they were not happy about it. as it woke them out of their cold quiescence...
Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
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I miss those days also, but sadly no matter what we do they will never return to our inshore waters. I agree there should be no targeting them in bays ie ; fyke nets, but it's just too late. These fish are thriving offshore, yet not inshore. There are many many studies showing the increase in water temps changing it all. As the flounder and fluke head out of the sound it starts to fill with more southern fish like sea bass.
As for the south shore bays, they just aren't entering or they're not staying long. Sadly we could never stock enough to bring them back. Besides they just won't come back inside. It was attempted years ago, but it was stopped.
You can disagree with climate change and it's causes, but you cannot deny the actual water temps are rising much faster than in the rest of the world and it's effects are evident. Hell, there's now a targeted tarpon fishery in the Chesapeake Bay. Things are changing and as they do, science has to catch up.
But Whiting and Ling all disappeared around the same time . The winters in the late 1980's the offshore dragger fleet wiped out the fluke. When there were no fluke they targeted whiting and anything else. I remember the summer of 1989 being the worst fluke season ever. Ling are making a great comeback and whiting are starting to show, Party boats had nothing to catch in the early 1990's and they all targeted blackfish and those fish went into decline. The flounder disappeared too quickly . There are still flounder in the bay , just not enough of them to build a population. Maybe there's an ocean stock and a bay stock.
First Mate704 postsSince 2021
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Reynolds channel by the Point Lookout Marina Circa 1982, you fished about 1'4 mile away from the boat ramp on the opposite side next to the marsh and one big flounder after another in early May. You'd also catch a few fluke .Now it's all crabs. A whole generation has grown up never going flounder fishing. They wouldn't know where to fish .
First Mate704 postsSince 2021
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Peak winter fishing in my lifetime was around 1981/1982, You could hop on a Freeport Party boat and expect to catch 5-10 cod no problem. Same with Whiting and Ling Out of Sheepshead Bay , you could fill a bucket up . Flounder was excellent spring and fall. Black fishing was equally good. You didn't have to go out east in those days. Striper fishing was dreadful. Blue fishing was better. And I remember boats going out 15 miles off Fire Island. and caught 1 or 2 White Marlin a boat .
First Mate704 postsSince 2021
? its no lie,,,,,,,, if we only knew back then:(,, we feed everybody ,,, a mojoe haul,, thats how it was back then,, i had a boat in great kills,, these flounder came out of raritan bay staten island,,,,,,,,,,,most of the time with no chum,,,, some times we did chum,,, we picked a spot and dragged the anchor around in a circle to mess the bottom up and then we anchor up and banged them out,, alot of doubles too,,,,,,,,,,[COLOR=rgb(26, 188, 156)] ><)))):>
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CommodoreOriginal Crew12,915 postsSince 2019
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